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Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 03:00 PM PST.

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  •  So ... what do others think? (4+ / 0-)

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 03:02:58 PM PST

  •  Rec'd for a most excellent title n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    Bob Duck, Sharon Wraight

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 03:20:13 PM PST

  •  I think the Pro-Israel Lobby is not that much (2+ / 0-)

    different from several other special interest lobbies. IOW, they use their clout to intimidate people in Washington. I don't know what we can do about it, but I'd sure like to see something done to clean up the mess.

    “Social Security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit.” -- Ronald Reagan, 1984 debate with Walter Mondale

    by RJDixon74135 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 03:37:20 PM PST

  •  Normally I'd like like this ... (3+ / 0-)
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    Eyesbright, btfsilence, Eikyu Saha

    ...because I'm a skeptic of zionism and especially Israel's hypocritical covert nuclear arms (which should be dismantled immediately before we go forward with anymore actions against Iran).

    However, AIPAC said they were cool with Hagel, so did Schumer, the unofficial jewish spokesman of the Senate.

    So I just don't see the opposition that this comic is depicting...

    In fact, most of the anti-Hagel stuff i see is coming from waspy neo-cons who just want to fight about anything.

    •  And the neo-cons are not necessarily (1+ / 0-)
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      RJDixon74135

      pro-Israel.  First, because their love of war isn't about saving Israel -- it's about conducting an endless Crusade against Muslims (a la Huntington's Clash of Civilizations).  Second, they don't even support "Israel" per se, they only support Israel's far right-wing politicians (i.e., who support settlements and denial of human rights for Palestinians).  There are a great many Israelis who oppose Netanyahu's caustic policies.  

      It is a nasty trick to put the label "Anti-Israel" (implicitly meaning "anti-semitic") on people who oppose the inhuman treatment of Palestinians.  

      Implying that the anti-Hagel group is a "Pro-Israel Lobby" unfortunately feeds into this discourse strategy.  It makes it seem like those who oppose Hagel are somehow "Pro-Israel."  They're not, and they should be called out on it.  

    •  Not true about AIPAC (2+ / 0-)
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      AaronInSanDiego, volleyboy1

      Their policy is that they don't take positions on nominations to anything.

  •  Where is the Emergency Committee (0+ / 0-)

    getting its funding? From Sheldon Adelson?

  •  I got an anti-Hagel phone call Tuesday (1+ / 0-)
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    Eikyu Saha

    What a waste of somebody's money!
    First, the connection was so scratchy at first that I could barely understand what the poor kid in a boiler room somewhere was saying. Something about how Obama had appointed Chuck Hagel, a Republican, to be Secretary of Defense. I asked who was calling--he said the name of the organization a couple of times, but I never could make it out, but the kid said, "we're affiliated with the Democratic party."
    Then he tells me to call Chuck Schumer's office and ask him to block the nomination. "Why?" I say. "What's your main objection to Hagel?" After hemming and hawing, the kid responds, "I don't have that information."

    Ok, thanks. Hanging up now.

    Jeez, If you're going to spend money on phone banks, at least give your paid minions one talking point to use!

    My husband is on lists of Jewish voters, judging by other mail and calls we get. So maybe that's why we got the call.

  •  I can't believe (1+ / 0-)
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    volleyboy1

    that so many Kossacks are supporting Hagel.

    His lifetime American Conservative Union voting record is 84. Why, Joe Lieberman's is only 16!

    What are we doing rewarding someone who has spent an entire career opposed everything this site has ever stood for?

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