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  •  Beautify America... (1+ / 0-)
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    PSzymeczek

    ...blowed up a Walmart good!

    Yeah, real good!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 06:53:10 AM PST

  •  Walmart relies on the the social safety net (21+ / 0-)

    to keep their employees alive for them.

    They are subsidized by the taxpayers to the tune of tens of billions per year.

    Rather than tax them, I suggest we raise minimum wage to $10 / hr, but $12 / hr for those working part time.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 06:56:37 AM PST

  •  Leave Wal-mart Alone!!! (6+ / 0-)

       How fucking dare anyone out there make fun of Wal-mart after all they have been through.!

        Corporations are  A HUMAN! (ah! ooh!) What you don’t realize is that Wal-Mart is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about it.

        It hasn’t performed the wal mart squiggle dance in years.  The Low Price Guarantee is for a reason because all you people want is MORE! MORE-MORE, MORE: MORE!.

        LEAVE IT ALONE! You are lucky it even sells cheap stuff for you BASTARDS!
        LEAVE Wal-Mart ALONE!…..Please.

        Bain Capital talked about professionalism and said if Wal-Mart was a professional it would’ve pulled it off no matter what.

        Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash a a company which is going through a hard time.

        Leave Wal-Mart Alone Please…. !
        Leave Wal-Mart alone!…right now!….I mean it.!

    /snark

     

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:12:47 AM PST

  •  Um.. (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, happy camper, PSzymeczek

    Henry Ford was also a horrible anti-Semite. Not ready to canonize the man.

    "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

    by TLS66 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:20:30 AM PST

    •  Ford's celebrated wage (5+ / 0-)

      scale was also intended to help him hire away all the most experienced workers from his competitors.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:42:39 AM PST

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      •  An asshole, but a smart asshole (7+ / 0-)

        unlike today's looters, who are mostly dumb assholes with high politico-economic connections.

        If it's
        Not your body,
        Then it's
        Not your choice
        And it's
        None of your damn business!

        by TheOtherMaven on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 09:01:43 AM PST

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        •  When he discovered that (1+ / 0-)
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          BlackSheep1

          the Dodge brothers were financing their new car company with dividends from their Ford stock, ol' Henry eliminated the dividend, a move that the courts eventually disallowed. He was a real bastard. He even attempted to enforce his personal ideas of proper conduct on his workers at home. Google "Ford sociology department".

          "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

          by happy camper on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 10:03:24 AM PST

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      •  Yup. Which puts him way up on the Wal-Marts (2+ / 0-)
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        BlackSheep1, radical simplicity

        of this world.  He was smart enough to know that people are not staplers or chairs or some such thing.

        Funny, isn't it, how many current CEOs don't know what Ford did?

        You get what you pay for applies to a lot more than fine china and cars.

        Funnier still -- a few understand it, make tons of money, and the others still scratch their heads.  Places like Costco, Trader Joes, and Aldi don't exactly pay their associates CEO wages, but notably more than Wal-Mart.

        The end result for this profit-killing practice?

        Total fail!! The companies still manage to make massive profits.  Sad that old Henry would still be ahead of his time 100 years later.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 12:14:49 PM PST

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    •  He also believed that drinking breast milk (0+ / 0-)

      every day would increase his life expectancy. Though his method of consumption was never explained....

      •  Henry Ford was also praised by name in Mein Kampf (1+ / 0-)
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        swampyankee

        Just FYI for people who might not be familiar with what the guy was like. You can Google his anti-semetic articles. He wasn't just one of those "eh, I don't really trust Jewish people" guys.

        From Wikipedia:

        In a letter written in 1924, Heinrich Himmler described Ford as "one of our most valuable, important, and witty fighters."[60] Ford is the only American mentioned in Mein Kampf.[61][62] Adolf Hitler wrote, "only a single great man, Ford, [who], to [the Jews'] fury, still maintains full independence...[from] the controlling masters of the producers in a nation of one hundred and twenty millions." Speaking in 1931 to a Detroit News reporter, Hitler said he regarded Ford as his "inspiration," explaining his reason for keeping Ford's life-size portrait next to his desk.[63]
        The governor of Vienna who was responsible for sending over 60,000 Jews to concentration camps in Poland testified at Nurenberg that Henry Ford's writing convinced him to become an anti-semite and to hate Jews.

        When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

        by PhillyJeff on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 08:55:25 AM PST

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        •  You mean (1+ / 0-)
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          swampyankee

          Charles Lindbergh wasn't mentioned?  He was a Nazi sympathizer.

          You can't keep a mighty tree alive (much less expect it to thrive) by only spritzing the fine leaves at its tippy-top. The fate of the whole tree depends on nurturing the grassroots. - Jim Hightower

          by PSzymeczek on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 09:05:07 AM PST

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          •  In Fairness (2+ / 0-)
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            Seneca Doane, radical simplicity

            A great number of the wealthy supported Hitler with cash, kind words and did so publicly. In fact, it's doubtful without regular cash infusions from this assholish and uniquely American group of ultra rich dickheads (can you say "wage theft"?)  that the Nazis could have ever hung on through the years when the German economy was buzzing and the Weimar Republic was a functioning democracy. It's quite possible in those good times the demise of the Nazis who depended on deprivation and unrest to achieve power would have occurred, thus sparing the world the vast destruction that would be visited upon it 10 years later.

            This class of idle rich wingnuts practically drooled over the possibility of installing a "Der Fürher" right here in the good ol' USA. One of the very first laws Hitler shoved through a cowed Reichstag suddenly filled with Nazis were laws outlawing Unions. Now I ask you, what American plutocrat worth his salt wouldn't do to achieve that?

            Think about it, using the support of it's own and American wealth and subverting democracy by using its functions to subvert it, the Nazis rose to power, a power that ultimately resulted in the loss of 50 million lives, easily. Can you guess what contemporary political party uses the very same support and political techniques, right here, right now? Yes, I knew you could.

            And none dare call it treason.

            •  Dave925: take a look at Prescott Bush in (2+ / 0-)
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              radical simplicity, Dave925

              that bunch of rightwingers too.
              also, it's worth noting that Gen. Smedley Butler of the USMC told 'em to go to hell when they tried to hire him to murder FDR.

              LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

              by BlackSheep1 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 12:55:09 PM PST

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              •  Absolutely (1+ / 0-)
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                BlackSheep1

                And now a forgotten foot note in the history written by apologists for Plutocracy, General Butler blew the whistle on them and like every Democrat President since, when confronted by real criminality in the Puke party, Roosevelt refused to go public with the truth- that America's political system is held hostage by a criminal elite whose wealth and power came from the very real exploitation of American Labor and who will stop at nothing, even coups d'etat, to eliminate even the most minor threats to their undeserved and unearned positions in life.

                If one, just one of these Democrats post Roosevelt had let the truth be known, can you imagine how better off this country would be? How better the lives 99.99% of its people would be?

                Puke continue their depredations because they know there is no downside to their crimes, they are never held accountable. Obama allowing Shitby and The Re-Animator to walk away from their crimes is merely the latest betrayal of justice done by a Democratic President. I wonder just what they have to do before any one blows the whistle on them and informs the masses with the truth of the matter- that one political party time and time again has committed the most rank of treason, costing American boys their lives, sometimes in the thousands by their crimes.

                And by the way, guess who mentored and who acted as protege in the rise of one of the greatest political scumbags of the 2Oth century? Yup, that would be Nazi money laundered Press Bush and one Richard Nixon. That would be the Nixon who used Henry Kissinger to buy off "President Thieu" and thus torpedo the Paris Peace Talks in October, 1968 which resulted in the deaths of another 30,000 American boys and millions South East Asians only to take th every same "peace" deal in January 1973 that Johnson had negotiated in that October of 1968.

                That such crimes against this country and humanity itself remain unknown to the vast majority of Americans is a great crime in and of itself. I can't imagine what sort of reasoning would be behind NOT revealing the truth long ago when these crimes occurred but at any rate, there it is.

                •  The moneyed few rule via fear (0+ / 0-)

                  but if we nationalize the banks and reinstate Glass-Steagall we'll have a foot in the door against their terrorism.

                  LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

                  by BlackSheep1 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 09:26:52 AM PST

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    •  I don't see a canonization here (3+ / 0-)

      I see a cartoonization -- one quoting a pertinent fact in appropriate context.

      Plaintiffs' Employment Law Attorney (harassment, discrimination, retaliation, whistleblowing, wage & hour, &c.) in North Orange County, CA.

      "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back."
      -- Saul Alinsky

      by Seneca Doane on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 11:15:08 AM PST

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    •  True (0+ / 0-)

      True but we don't have to canonize him to acknowledge he got some things right.
      Like many powerful people, Ford was a mix of desirable and undesirable traits.

  •  Living wage (4+ / 0-)

    Here in NC. I would love to see someone live on 12dollars and hour. Food, electricity, clothing and gas are as high as anywhere in the N east. Its poverty level pay, minimum pay was supposed to be for young Americans coming in to the work force who still had support of their parents, yet this is the pay given to adults now that are coming off unemployment.
    I recomment that our law makers (congress and the house)be made to live on this for a little while, so they get a little feel of how it is to make ends meet.

    I think Jesus meant christian as a verb not a noun

    by rageagnstmach on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:23:19 AM PST

    •  I'd love to see them try, but I'm (3+ / 0-)
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      rageagnstmach, PSzymeczek, JeffW

      not holding my breath. I'm sure they feel they're too important to deprive themselves in such a way. When they want personal experience with something, they'll do it first class.

      "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

      by Lily O Lady on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 08:24:58 AM PST

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    •  I'd love to see Congress on a wage exactly (0+ / 0-)

      twice the Federal poverty level.

      We'd find out in a hurry which ones care to serve.

      LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

      by BlackSheep1 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 12:56:14 PM PST

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  •  The usual unfocused rant (3+ / 0-)
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    PSzymeczek, JeffW, weinerschnauzer

    Henry Ford was an awful human being:

    and he's still better than Wal-Mart.

    Indeed, the low-wage policy is exactly what the comic suggests.  Generally, people who make more money shop at places other than Wal-Mart.  It's only minimum-wage and public-assistance people who know that Wal-Mart is the only place they can afford to shop.  It's a race to the bottom; not exactly the formula for a prosperous, growing economy.

    I have several posts suggesting that not only would raising the minimum wage be good for the economy, but also that it would contribute to lowering illegal immigration.  The purpose of illegal immigration (ok, undocumented workers) -- and the reason businesses, corporations, and Republican support it -- is to provide cheap, disposable labor.  If we make it so that low-end jobs pay a living wage, and punish the companies that hire illegal aliens in order to exploit them and pad company profits, there will be all kinds of benefits to the U.S. economy.

    Convincing Mexico and other countries to do likewise, by refusing to allow goods manufactured under slave conditions, or factories like the one in Bangla Desh, will help people in those countries, as well.

    A healthy economy is one in which everyone benefits. That's not using economic policy to be nice; it's good economics.

    In Washington, whenever anyone does something wrong, everyone else gets punished.

    by Noziglia on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:37:44 AM PST

  •  Is that Calvin Coolidge in the portrait (2+ / 0-)
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    PSzymeczek, ontheleftcoast

    behind the Walmart exec?

    In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

    by Troubadour on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:41:49 AM PST

    •  I think it's supposed to be Henry Ford (0+ / 0-)

      But I'm not up on my cartoon caricatures of early 20th century Americans.

      To me progress is not so much a goal as it is a process and I believe it will not follow a straight course. Remember, the drops of water that form the river may not take the shortest path but they will still reach the ocean.

      by ontheleftcoast on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 12:31:27 PM PST

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  •  I think that death panel is really funny. (1+ / 0-)
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    Seneca Doane
    •  I think that calling it "the death panel" (0+ / 0-)

      is really funny too.

      Plaintiffs' Employment Law Attorney (harassment, discrimination, retaliation, whistleblowing, wage & hour, &c.) in North Orange County, CA.

      "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back."
      -- Saul Alinsky

      by Seneca Doane on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 11:16:20 AM PST

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  •  Still my favorite (0+ / 0-)

    comic artist -- every time      

    "If you don't turn onto politics, politics will turn on you" -Ralph Nader; 2000

    by Soviet Reunion on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 01:58:57 PM PST

  •  Wal-Mart (0+ / 0-)

    well in order for a consumer to purchase things in "every day low prices" than someone must be getting paid real low for that... Workers disadvantage becomes the consumer's advantage.

  •  WalMart can save you 25% on pantry food... (0+ / 0-)

    ...not produce or meat, which is where they fail with inferior offerings no matter the price, but in canned goods, frozen goods, and various food that comes in boxes, which if you don't cook you don't know what I'm talking about. But 25% is real money.

    My wife and I only shop WalMart once or twice a year to stock up on pantry items. Weekly, we favour the local grocer.

    We do not buy electronics there, as it is proven they establish limited deals for quick profit crap.

    Housewares, it's a coin toss. Convenience has appeal, but the key is to buy what you need and don't get sold on what they're selling.

    Phil Ochs was a hero of mine, so long ago, and way in the back of my mind there's always a haunting ballad sung in his immortal voice ~ and he's so divinely naive that I know that voice could never be now, singing to the lookers on to the war crime profiteers... or, no wait maybe he was...

    "The Supreme Courtiers have landed on the shores of China-o-mingo" ~ 50,000 Elvis fans can't be wrong!

    "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." George Santayana

    by Fulgour on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 11:46:05 PM PST

    •  ps: NO "Great Value" house items! (0+ / 0-)

      Strictly legit brands, not WalMart's own "Great Value" which goes a small way to assuage one's conscience.

      Nota Bene: WalMart is actively reducing the financial attractiveness of this option.

      I just wish we had a Costco, big DEM supporters.
      WalMart is like a GOP monetary glee club.

      "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." George Santayana

      by Fulgour on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 10:11:11 PM PST

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