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Paul Krugman pounds Europe's austerity-mongers again, although the voters did their own pounding:

What’s wrong with the prescription of spending cuts as the remedy for Europe’s ills? One answer is that the confidence fairy doesn’t exist — that is, claims that slashing government spending would somehow encourage consumers and businesses to spend more have been overwhelmingly refuted by the experience of the past two years. So spending cuts in a depressed economy just make the depression deeper.

Moreover, there seems to be little if any gain in return for the pain. Consider the case of Ireland, which has been a good soldier in this crisis, imposing ever-harsher austerity in an attempt to win back the favor of the bond markets. According to the prevailing orthodoxy, this should work. In fact, the will to believe is so strong that members of Europe’s policy elite keep proclaiming that Irish austerity has indeed worked, that the Irish economy has begun to recover.

But it hasn’t.

Harold Meyerson gives ill-timed austerity a kick, too:
Nor is the emphasis on growth over austerity limited to the left. Italy’s technocratic prime minister, Mario Monti, who was installed to put his nation’s fiscal house in order, now argues that growth must precede austerity. The millions who marched down Europe’s boulevards on May Day concur. A mass movement for Keynesian economics is sweeping Europe, though Merkel’s Germany still is determined to thwart it — at least, until its order books grow skimpy.

The United States has austerity demons of its own, of course. While the private sector has rebounded somewhat from the 2008-09 collapse, creating 4 million jobs since the turnaround began in 2010, state and local governments have shed 611,000 employees — including 196,000 teachers — since President Obama took office, The Post’s Zachary A. Goldfarb reported. The shrinking of government ranks high among the drags on the U.S. recovery. The 2009 stimulus provided funding to states and cities that enabled them to keep many workers on the job, but when that funding began running out in 2010, layoffs, particularly among teachers, redoubled.

E. J. Dionne speaks up for the financially troubled The American Prospect.

Doyle McManus wants more transparency on drone attacks:

Drone strikes are approved, [chief counter-terrorism advisor John] Brennan said, only if it's impossible to capture a suspect, only if innocent civilians won't be hurt ("except in the rarest of circumstances") and only "if we have a high degree of confidence that the individual being targeted is indeed the terrorist we are pursuing."

So why don't I find this reassuring?

Why? Because it's the kind of talk that sets the BS antennae to vibrating in all but the most gullible.

Debra Saunders points out what she calls a partisan double-standard:

"Should Mitt Romney win the election," [Clifford D. May, president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies] observed, he doubts many on the left "who have refrained from criticizing President Obama for such things as the use of drones will extend the same courtesy" to Romney.

There is only one way to find out.

Pardon us, we'd rather not.

Greg Mitchell says, sure, the French can elect a socialist, but could the U.S. when the closest a socialist running as a Democrat came to winning a state was 1934:

Of all the left-wing mass movements that arose in the early years of the Great Depression, Upton Sinclair’s End Poverty in California (EPIC) crusade proved most influential, and not just in helping to push the New Deal to the left. The Sinclair threat—after he easily won the Democratic gubernatorial primary—so profoundly alarmed conservatives that it sparked the creation of the modern political campaign, with its reliance on hired guns, advertising and media tricks, national fundraising, attack ads on the screen and more.

Profiling two of the creators of the anti-Sinclair campaign, Carey McWilliams would later call this (in The Nation) “a new era in American politics—government by public relations.” It also provoked Hollywood’s first all-out plunge into politics, which, in turn, inspired the leftward tilt in the movie colony that endures to this day.

The Editorial board of The Independent warns "If, as it appears, Mr. Hollande won French minds, but not their hearts, he may be in for a hard time."

Michele Chen:

The waves of protests and rallies on May Day 2012 had barely cleared out when police happened upon more than 100 undocumented immigrants locked in isolated houses near the Texas border. After being trapped for days deprived of food and water, they were turned over to the border patrol. May First is supposed to be a day to remember the struggles of labor and the poor, but these migrants were forgotten, like so many of the border's economic refugees.

May Day has historically had a pro-migrant message, from its origins in 19th-century working-class Chicago, to its revival in 2006 as a day of protest for immigration reform. But this year, even with the added momentum of Occupy Wall Street, the pro-immigrant mobilizations were relatively modest, according to advocates, though the struggles facing immigrants are growing more dire.

Tracy Clark-Flory addresses proposals laws forbidding teachers' "condoning" of "gateway sexual activity":
Even the acknowledgement of hormonal changes and natural urges is dangerous. Earlier this month, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signed into law a bill that removed not only contraceptives but also puberty — puberty! — from the list of required topics in sex-ed classes. The concept of puberty itself makes natural what abstinence-only advocates desperately want to seem unnatural.
It's not the sex-ed they don't like. It's the sex.

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  •  Iwrote a small bit aboit EPIC here (12+ / 0-)

    Mr. Roosevelt's Social Insurance

    One of the fascinating things to contemplate is the now-forgotten antecedents of Social Security, including more  radical programs pushed by people like Upton Sinclair (the End Poverty in California plan):

       Sinclair's EPIC scheme was a 12-point program to remake the Californian economy. It involved the issuance of scrip currency, the creation of large state-run bartering enterprises, a tax on idle land and floating a large state bond for $300 million. Point 10 of the plan was a proposal to give pensions of $50 a month to all needy persons over 60 who had lived in California for at least three years. There was a state pension plan in operation in California at the time, but its benefits were very low, and the eligibility requirements were so severe that most elderly Californians could not qualify. (This was true of many of the state pension programs around the country.) Sinclair's pension proposal was very popular because in one fell swoop it reduced the minimum age for pensions by 10 years, almost doubled their value, and eliminated restrictive eligibility requirements.
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    Huey Long (Every Man a King), the eponymous Townsend and Bigelow plan creators, the General Welfare Federation of America and the Technocracy movement were other pension plans of that era. Sinclair, an avowed Socialist, nearly got himself elected Governor of California in 1936.

       

    When the votes were counted, Upton Sinclair got 37% of the vote, the Republican candidate got 48% and a third-party progressive candidate took another 13%. Had it been a two-man race, Upton Sinclair might have become Governor of California and the EPIC pension plan might well have become the California model.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Mon May 07, 2012 at 04:47:44 AM PDT

    •  Reality is the problem with philosophy. (2+ / 0-)
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      tb mare, DemFromCT

      As a doctor, Dem, I know you are familiar with the idea of triage, which is aimed at keeping the patient alive until healing/fixing can be done.

      Right wing/left wing/legs doesn't much matter when things are going to hell in a handbasket -- and they are.

      Stanch the bleeding, stabilize the patient, then worry about the proper cure.

      The thing that was brilliant about FDR -- especially when you consider that his patrician background -- was that he understood the country's suffering and was willing to throw things at the wall until something stuck.

      We could use some of that now.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:40:21 AM PDT

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      •  you, krugman, and I agree (4+ / 0-)

        Roosevelt had a D congress willing to work with him. Even in 2008-10 Obama had no cooperateve filibuster proof legislature. Do not forget that FDR would have had a hell of a time getting anything done in 2008.

        fact is, Keynes was right (see Europe).

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:02:27 AM PDT

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        •  You're rewriting history. (0+ / 0-)

          In his first two years, FDR did not have a filibuster-proof Senate.  He threw things at the wall, anyway, and dared Republicans to stop him.

          When they did, he ran against that fact in 1934 and got his filibuster-proof majority, picking up 9 Senate seats in the process.

          Obama is no FDR.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:10:07 AM PDT

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          •  no, he's not (3+ / 0-)
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            no question about that. But the dynamic is completely different today. Part of Obama's problem is his success. had McCain been elected and driven the economy even more over the cliff, the same Obama now would be a shoo-in — and I'm glad it didn't happen that way.

            A Depression is way worse than a Great Recession.

            Nonetheless Keynes was right and we needed a bigger stimulus. Lawrence Summers fucked up.

            "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

            by Greg Dworkin on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:16:44 AM PDT

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            •  Now Summers has had a change of heart. (3+ / 0-)

              But only people who keep up with economic theory and discussion will know that.  Afraid he'll go down in history as one of the ones that gave Obama bad advice and did his best to stop the president from receiving good advice that was available at the same time.  Too bad for him - and Geithner too.

              "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

              by SueDe on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:38:39 AM PDT

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            •  Part of Obama's problem is Obama. (1+ / 0-)
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              No vision, no strong sense of right or wrong.

              He willingly let millions of Americans dangle in the wind as he pursued his own agenda.

              FDR engaged immediately -- and tackled the biggest and most glaring problem facing the nation.  Not only that, he addressed the nation in a direct and compassionate way.

              Obama shoveled money at Wall Street, passed a "stimulus", then walked away to to other, "more important", things.

              He may yet survive that due to the gift of Romney, but Obama's about as far from FDR as you can get.

              LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

              by dinotrac on Mon May 07, 2012 at 08:01:35 AM PDT

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            •  What you call it depends on who you are. (0+ / 0-)

              If you've got a nice job, it's a Recession.

              If you've used up 99 weeks of unemployment, it's a Depression.

              Average unemployment duration is now 39+ weeks.

              Talk about haves vs have-nots.

              LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

              by dinotrac on Mon May 07, 2012 at 08:50:32 AM PDT

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              •  let us not prove you wrong (0+ / 0-)

                by having a real depression. It's more than just semantics.

                "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                by Greg Dworkin on Mon May 07, 2012 at 09:41:36 AM PDT

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                •  I know. I remember from my college days getting (1+ / 0-)
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                  DemFromCT

                  my economics degree and from the econ classes I took in grad school.

                  But -- a funny thing.
                  Economists talk about depression in terms of GDP, but when you see depictions of the depression, it's bread lines, not trend lines.

                  LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

                  by dinotrac on Mon May 07, 2012 at 10:08:51 AM PDT

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  •  I suspect that many Republicans think sex is (2+ / 0-)
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    somehow 'nasty'; at least they seem to believe that way.

    •  Republicans think Sex when Single is horrifying (2+ / 0-)
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      but yet when married, think sex is a good thing and they expect their wives to be in the mood constantly or whenever they are.

      My sister told me her married friends want to talk about sex all of the time and the right wing religious nuts want married women to have more sex and babies but sex is forbidden and awful and disgusting for single people.

      So how is a woman who is taught Sex is horrible when she is single, suddenly not have hang ups about the minute she is married.

      My sister told me about these Sex toys parties for married christian women....and suddenly it is all sex all of the time. She thinks it is because a number of them were either virgins who hated sex before marriage or have guilt about having sex as single and are relieved now they are married.

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      by wishingwell on Mon May 07, 2012 at 04:52:57 AM PDT

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    •  My best understanding (6+ / 0-)

      which I wrote on my blog in response to Tracy Flory-Clark's piece in Salon (since I neither subscribe nor link my social networks to the site), is that Right wing evangelicals, fundamentalists, and dominionists (and others of that ilk) believe that humans are by nature asexual, and only develop sexual urges and take part in sexual activity because they are corrupted by sex ed.

      This is a glaringly unreal concept. But not only do they have no trouble maintaining it in the face of all evidence to the contrary, they at the same time maintain the belief that sex ed that is simply made-up shit (abstinence with indoctrination about how birth control doesn't work and abortion causes breast cancer, for instance) is worthwhile, while immersing their kids in a culture of sexualized televion as a babysitting device. Mom and dad spend their time with their brains plugged into Fox News and hate radio, while the kiddos watch racy sitcoms and surf the internet for porn. But when their 13 year old daughter gets pregnant it's the fault of sex ed.

    •  Of course! (1+ / 0-)
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      The big disconnect for conservatives comes from this:

      Premarital or extramarital sex, even physical affection, is like a drug — all-consuming, addictive and life-destroying. Sen. Margaret Dayton, a co-sponsor of the bill, actually said, as the Salt Lake Tribune paraphrased, “Teaching children about contraception is comparable to telling kids not to do drugs, then showing them how to ‘mainline’ heroin.”
      You see the disconnect here? There are all kinds of classes throughout elementary schools and middle schools that teach kids (mostly a lot of stupid propagandized crap) about not doing drugs, and we manage not to have a majority of graduating drug addicts.
      But teaching sex is just like showing children how to "mainline" heroin.
      The stupid is just overwhelming sometimes, isn't it?

      If you can separate sex from procreation, you have given women the ability to participate in society on an equal basis with men. -Gloria Feldt

      by skohayes on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:54:57 AM PDT

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    •  I think you're missing the point (1+ / 0-)
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      Conservatives don't hate sex. They just think it should be reserved for hyper rich men (like Dominique Strauss-Kahn) and the ideological faithful who promise to have a child for every man's orgasm (women don't need any dirty, dirty orgasms. They're dirty).

      Conservative men have always known that the rules are different for them. The daughters of the poor have always been their sexual playthings.

      Poor women exist to give them lap dances and conservative women to bear their children.

      Because sex is the birthright of rich men, they can't see that poor children need to know anything about it. The boy children of the rich will be informed of all they need to know about sex by their prep school chums during underage drunken revels (without girls, mind you).

      The rest of the dirty proles need to be corralled into loveless marriages for the benefit of the rich, since the poor exist for no other reason than to provide ready cash and ill-paid servants for their betters.

      It's no good thinking the rich hate sex.... they hate and despise YOU and everything you do. And that includes (your) sex.

  •  I made a very unwise, dumb decision when I (6+ / 0-)

    found I could not get back to sleep at 6 am and watched about 5 minutes of Morning Joke. It was so depressing and just awful, I had to shut off the TV, The entire panel was talking about how the race for President is a Dead Heat and how the President is losing independents to Romney, and how the President is losing young people.

    In fact, the entire panel said there is polling showing the young people to be more center right and the young voters want more tax cuts and are worried about the debt and they like the Ryan plan. WTF is up with that?

    What polls are they talking about? Even Sam Stein said the President is in serious trouble with voters.

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    by wishingwell on Mon May 07, 2012 at 04:48:50 AM PDT

  •  Vermont is a state (2+ / 0-)
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    prodigal, Laconic Lib

    Today abbreviated means (among other things) rendered innaccurate.  Socialist Bernie Sanders has won three different statewide offices.  "winning a state" must be corrected  back to the original "winning a giant state" for the post to be accurate.

    Sorry to be rude, but www.dailykos.com wouldn't let me be frist.  This box only opened when I clicked againnn after Phrogg and wishing.  BTW I know what phishing is, but what is phrogging ?

  •  So we gain civil rights at conception and lose (8+ / 0-)

    them at puberty.

    Wow.  

    I can’t decide who’s cuter – the dead guy with the arrows in his chest, or the guy in the ditch with the seeping wound. -- Game of Thrones (Heard on Set)

    by prodigal on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:00:23 AM PDT

  •  Denying puberty is the logical step after denying (7+ / 0-)

    evolution and anthropomorphic global warming. Next up will be denying aging which will clear the way to eliminate Social Security and Medicare because no one will ever get old enough to need them! The right wing never sleeps...

    •  Pretty much. (2+ / 0-)
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      singe, skohayes

      I think they want kids to be like Christmas Card angels who are smooth all over with no sex organs.

      Can castration and mutilation be far behind?

      If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

      by Bush Bites on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:27:59 AM PDT

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      •  Speaking of mutilation I was astounded to find out (5+ / 0-)

        that in Egypt 90% of women have undergone genital mutilation. The effort to control women's bodies is also at the heart of much of the anti sex ed bullshit we hear in this country.

        •  I'm telling you. (1+ / 0-)
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          Laconic Lib

          The US South isn't that far behind the Middle East.

          I've lived there.

          If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

          by Bush Bites on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:40:59 AM PDT

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          •  Normally I would maybe feel defensive enough (3+ / 0-)

            to complain about your generalization. But sitting here in NC anticipating the passage of Amendment One has taken all the fun out of it. But I will say NC isn't the first State, nor are only southern states passing this kind of thing. I wish the problem were only the South. It's everywhere in this country right now.

            “You can only become truly accomplished at something you love. Don't make money your goal. Instead, pursue the things you love doing, and then do them so well that people can't take their eyes off you...” - Maya Angelou

            by stellaluna on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:53:56 AM PDT

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            •  OK....I expected some pushback on that. (1+ / 0-)
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              Laconic Lib

              What can I say? I lived in Tennessee and never knew so many people could fit the Bible or the Constitution into so many different kinds of conversations.

              In any case, NC seems fairly enlightened to me, give or take the occasional oddball law.

              If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

              by Bush Bites on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:02:50 AM PDT

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              •  Well it was a very weak pushback. (0+ / 0-)

                And at the moment I don't feel like it is very enlightened at all.  I've spent the weekend looking at all of the people I see out in public imagining that 60% of them would vote for this Amendment and it's scary.  I'm really disgusted with the State (and the country) for letting these hateful stupid people have so much power.

                “You can only become truly accomplished at something you love. Don't make money your goal. Instead, pursue the things you love doing, and then do them so well that people can't take their eyes off you...” - Maya Angelou

                by stellaluna on Mon May 07, 2012 at 08:54:33 AM PDT

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          •  Okay, here's your pushback (0+ / 0-)

            You've lived in one state, Tennessee, for how many years?
            I lived in the south for almost 23 years, VA and NC mostly.
            For all their faults, women in southern states are allowed to drive, work, vote, drink, go to college and marry whom they choose, so no, the South is far AHEAD of the ME in those respects.

            If you can separate sex from procreation, you have given women the ability to participate in society on an equal basis with men. -Gloria Feldt

            by skohayes on Mon May 07, 2012 at 07:03:37 AM PDT

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  •  I felt the same way about drones under Bush.... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...that I do under Obama and that I would under Romney.

    Most people here wouldn't like my opinion on drones, but it's been consistent.

    If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

    by Bush Bites on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:08:12 AM PDT

  •  Europe may show us the way. (4+ / 0-)
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    While we were busy arguing over austerity and budget cutting and the horror of our deficits and debt, Europe was actually implementing austerity measures.  Now that this has shown to be counter-productive and destabilizing in Europe, maybe the U.S. will not be so quick to insist on instituting further austerity measures here.  Congress has already done enough damage by refusing to consider further aid to the states to keep them from laying off hundreds of thousands of public workers.

    Already the Republicans in congress have been backtracking on the $1.2 trillion in cuts agreed to as a condition of raising the debt ceiling last year, and now the Democrats are talking about reviewing the entire agreement.  Good.  About time.  Our elections could be as upsetting as Europe's if our politicians keep insisting on austerity as a path to economic revival.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:20:03 AM PDT

  •  Explosion de joie après la victoire de Hollande (7+ / 0-)

    Seems some hearts were moved.

  •  It's going to be a rough day in the markets (0+ / 0-)

    Get ready for a bumpy ride for the Euro after the French and Greek elections.

    I'll be darned if I can figure out how the French think electing Hollande will help.  In the middle of a debt crisis they elect a guy who promises to spend his way out of the recession in a country that cannot print their own money.  But then, Sarkozy wasn't getting anything fixed.. Should be interesting.

    And the Greek stock market dropped 8% after their elections ended up in a split parliament.

    •  it's all a question of how much pressure (3+ / 0-)
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      can be put on Germany, where Merkel has her own popularity issues and feels like she has to defend the Germans form bailing out Europe (which they so not want to do.)  France can't do anything on its own.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:37:14 AM PDT

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      •  The hope is that the ECB will take note (2+ / 0-)
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        of the elections and change their myopic preoccupation with low inflation and price stabilization.  But Merkel will be the key to making that happen, and now that she doesn't have Sarkozy to back her up and the rest of Europe is coming to the realization that continued suffering will not fix the problems, the opportunity is there.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:55:20 AM PDT

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    •  Seems like they should talk about ending the Euro. (2+ / 0-)
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      Jerry J, skohayes

      A country that can't control it's money is fucked.

      If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

      by Bush Bites on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:39:25 AM PDT

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  •  "France going socialist" (0+ / 0-)

    Yeah, let's run with that.

    How about "France joins list of countries pissed off at the way things are going"?

    http://finance.yahoo.com/...

    Winning parties in Europe seem to be more a matter of "not the guy in there now" than political philosophy.

    And...far right parties seem bigger than ever.

    That should give the Obama team pause, and make them work very hard to sell an electorate that's worse off than we were that we are better off than we would have been.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:34:48 AM PDT

    •  Hollande is about as socialist (3+ / 0-)
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      as Obama.  Obama got a stimulus package passed and Sarkozy didn't, but Hollande's idea of stimulus is a .01% increase in spending - weak tea.  Considering France is bound to the Euro, without the ECB loosening the money supply, any new spending will just result in more French debt.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Mon May 07, 2012 at 07:01:13 AM PDT

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      •  I remain amazed that the Euro has held together (0+ / 0-)

        It will be interesting to what happens with so many new governments in place -- and no will among their populations to kowtow to Germany.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Mon May 07, 2012 at 08:52:31 AM PDT

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  •  Anyone else see... (2+ / 0-)
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    Secretary of Education Arne Duncan on Morning Joe come right out and say he's in favor of same-sex marriage?

    •  That's cool, but why would that even come up? (0+ / 0-)

      He's the education secretary.

      If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

      by Bush Bites on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:46:48 AM PDT

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      •  I think we're seeing (0+ / 0-)

        pressure being put on the administration to come out in favor of SSM.
        Yesterday's comments from Biden didn't signal a change in the administration's policies, but for Joe to come right out and say it on a Sunday AM news show, and now Arne Duncan, along with Secretary Clinton and leading Democrats in Congress saying it should be part of our platform at Charlotte, Obama needs to evolve already.

        If you can separate sex from procreation, you have given women the ability to participate in society on an equal basis with men. -Gloria Feldt

        by skohayes on Mon May 07, 2012 at 07:08:38 AM PDT

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  •  MSM is really spinning the French,Greek vote story (11+ / 0-)

    Every headline is like "Those terrible voters, turmoil in the world markets, stocks falling"

    Euro, stock markets fall after votes in France and Greece
    Washington Post - 1 hour ago

    Europe's Election Results Spook Markets
    TIME - 22 minutes ago

    Greek election results spook markets
    Sioux City Journal - 19 minutes ago

    Euro weaker amid political uncertainty
    Financial Times - 8 minutes ago

    Leave it to the Canadians to have a little less corporate spin:
    With Hollande’s defeat of Sarkozy, France dodges a bullet
    The Globe and Mail
    American Corporate media is all about protecting corporate America, not about delivering news.

    "I read this- Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. I read every last word of this garbage, and because of this piece of $#!^ I'm never reading again!"-Officer Barbrady

    by Broke And Unemployed on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:46:51 AM PDT

  •  WHO did the laying-off of public-sector workers? (7+ / 0-)

    Passages like this should not be permitted into print without the insertion of "by Republican governors and Republican-controlled statehouses":

    "While the private sector has rebounded somewhat from the 2008-09 collapse, creating 4 million jobs since the turnaround began in 2010, state and local governments have shed 611,000 employees — including 196,000 teachers — since President Obama took office"

    This was not Obama's doing.  This was ALEC and the GOP.  It needs to be said.

    That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

    by concernedamerican on Mon May 07, 2012 at 05:53:15 AM PDT

    •  Plenty of laying-off of public sector workers in (0+ / 0-)

      some states with Dems in control of legislature and  governorship because of declining revenues from sales and income taxes, California and Washington for example.  These are states where the voters through initiatives have made raising taxes by the legislature extremely difficult.

      Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself. Harry Truman

      by ratcityreprobate on Mon May 07, 2012 at 06:42:46 AM PDT

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    •  Damn right. (4+ / 0-)

      This assumption by the press that both political parties are equally to blame is infuriating.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Mon May 07, 2012 at 07:04:18 AM PDT

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  •  Debra Saunders is an idiot (1+ / 0-)
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    Claiming a double standard, and bemoaning the ill-treatment of poor little conservatives is standard-issue conservatism these days, but in claiming:

    the left "who have refrained from criticizing President Obama for such things as the use of drones
    she completely ignores (intentionally or not) the simple fact that "the left" have NOT refrained from criticizing Obama over things like drone strikes and detention policy. Anyone who bothers to do even basic research into the subject finds that voices on the left have consistently and vehemently challenged the Obama administration on their policies and actions.

    The only charitable explanation is that she is ignorant of the facts because the media is such a right-wing reserve that the voices on the left never get heard. The non-charitable explanation is that, as is another consistent conservative trope these days, she is simply lying to make a dishonest point.

    So the conclusion is that she is either willfully ignorant, lazy or a liar. The fourth option is that she is all three.

    Whatever the explanation, she is obviously, also, too, an idiot.

  •  The ironic thing about Debra Saunders drone claim (0+ / 0-)

    What's wrong with Saunders' comments about the lack of criticism for drone strikes from the left is that the whole reason it's a controversy is because of extensive criticism --- from the left. For all the talk of not being criticized by the left because he's a Democrat, all the criticism of the use of drones is from the left. In fact, just to be fair to Saunders, most of these claims no one on the left is criticizing Obama is coming from people on the left criticizing Obama.

    On the other hand, Saunders use Clifford May as a source, so any notion she has credibility should be blown away right there. She cites someone using drones as a defense of waterboarding.

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