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  •  The last thing we want to do is throw out a (5+ / 0-)

    challenge to people with a pathological obsession to the mentality, "I'll show them!"

    Less accessible fire arms, Better screening, mental health care covered in single payer system.

    •  That's your hangup. (0+ / 0-)

      'Showing them' is having a panic attack then demanding every law abiding, peace-loving citizen trade their tools of self defense for the security theatre of a 'gun free zone.'

      The whole decade needs an asterisk.

      by James Kresnik on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 10:03:25 AM PST

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      •  Different guns are designed for different purposes (6+ / 0-)

        As we have seen, killers can and do come armed with weapons that you aren't going to be carrying, and body armor to boot.

        You are, as the policeman at Columbine was, essentially unarmed if the killer has an AR-15 and you have a pistol. Your "tool of self defense" may as well be a paperweight.

        So, either everyone carries heavy weapons, or no one has access to them. And since option one is silly, option two is your only option.

        If your .45 or .357 makes you feel safe, that's because you've seen too much theater of the Dirty Harry variety. We have yet to have a heavily armed killer stopped with a handgun, despite numerous chances.

        Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

        by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 10:11:17 AM PST

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      •  Oh yes James do please tell me how very (2+ / 0-)
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        dangerous the world is and then try and convince me that guns are the answer to every confrontation. Because really I have no experience there.

        I live in a bubble, like all women do. [snark]

        It's not a hang up. And I never said it had to be a gun free zone.

        Making guns less accessible to belligerent asses who show a lack the ability to consider their actions in terms of effects on their neighbors, family members or community? though--I don't have a problem with that at all.

        It still shocks me that the Conn Shooter's Mother KNEW he had issues, and not only kept guns in the house with him, but took him out and showed him how to use them with accuracy. If I face palm myself any more, I will leave a dent in my head over that one.

        And If this makes me a bad guy--well, if some feel the need to stock up on ammo like they are going to be living in some War-Front somewhere, then I am going to look at them sideways. Who else will they be going to use all those bullets on, but the people in their community?

        Having a gun for self defense in the home I get. But if you need more than a box of bullets to get the job done, then maybe you need to move.

        Having a gun for hunting, I get that too. But once again, sportsmanship dictates not decapitating your prey with a spray of bullets. Killing for meat is one thing, Killing for the pleasure of killing is simply disturbing.

        And if your family members show signs of mental instability like suicidal or homicidal ideations, it seems that common sense would dictate that it's time to either get rid of the weapons, or at least store them in another location.

        Is that really too much to ask?

        Because the technology our government has now, not including the drones, well I don't care how well trained your militia is, it wouldn't take much to clean a place out, no matter how much you stockpiled in your basement.

        If some of these paranoid gun owners were really worried about the direction our government was going, perhaps they should have protested the patriot act instead of the new medical care coverage. Perhaps they should be more concerned about police brutality against peaceful protesters, rather than illegal immigrants, god or abortion.

        •  So you want to give Michael Bloomberg (0+ / 0-)

          the power to determine who exactly is a 'belligerent asshole?'

          I really don't think that will work out as well as you think:

          Sorry, but I simply trust my fellow citizens to do the right thing far more than I would trust the likes of Michael Bloomberg.

          Dropping gun and violent crime in the face of soaring gun  sales demonstrate that that trust is well placed.

          The whole decade needs an asterisk.

          by James Kresnik on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:32:38 PM PST

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